(LifeSiteNews) — Within a broad exchange of spiritual topics, including the priority of a personal relationship with God, the corruption of some Christian churches promoting sodomy, the evils of abortion, Christian Zionism, and discussions on the Antichrist, Tucker Carlson told Alex Jones that it is publicly speaking of Jesus Christ that “triggers” the greatest backlash.
“You want to make people upset? Start talking about Jesus,” the former Fox News flagship host said in an interview of InfoWars founder Alex Jones, released Monday (1:27:27).
While reviewing and analyzing spiritual concepts and expectations regarding the Antichrist, including a recent lecture series on the topic by openly homosexual tech billionaire Peter Thiel, Carlson offered that his “frequent but very untutored reading” of Sacred Scripture left him with the impression that “the Antichrist reserves the powers of God for himself. He pretends to be God,” and demands to be worshiped. He added that such a description applies to “most leaders in the world through all time.”
Admonishing such personages, he said, “you are not God, no one can worship you and the … (evil) things you do on earth do not make you powerful, (but) they actually destroy you.”
Offering the scriptural account of Jesus Christ being tempted in the desert by Satan for 40 days as a “template for life,” Carlson went on to describe how the devil offered Christ “deals and he declines all of them.”
The pundit emphasized how rationalizations that excuse evil to achieve some apparent good, such as “if I just do this, I’ll win this election,” or “I break some eggs to make the omelet,” will, in the end, lead to one’s personal ruin.
“No, dude, you’re going to be destroyed for that, probably in this life, (but) certainly in the next. And that’s just real. That’s just a fact,” he said about the possibility of everlasting damnation.
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Many powerful people sharply ‘triggered’ by the Gospel because ‘they hate Jesus’
“So, I guess the one thing I don’t like about the Antichrist conversation is it makes it sound like, (satanist) Anton LaVey is going to show up and start murdering people,” Carlson continued. “And I think it’s much more present than that.”
“Literally ‘antichrist’ means ‘against Christ.’ Well, who would that include? Most leaders in the world. They hate Jesus,” he proposed.
“You want to make people upset? Start talking about Jesus,” he said, going on to explain how this happened to him as a result of his short speech at Charlie Kirk’s memorial service in Arizona on September 21, which he described as a “six-minute talk about Jesus (and) only Jesus.”
Despite his stated efforts to avoid being political or attacking anybody but rather to instead give a reflection which was “unifying” and “consistent with what Charlie really cared about,” Carlson found himself under fierce attack being charged with antisemitism.
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According to Carlson, these follow-up criticisms were “insane” and “absurd.” However, “the emotion was real. It was totally real,” he recalled, mimicking these voices that charged his summarizing a portion of Christ’s passion narrative as being “outrageous.”
“All I did was recount the gospel, but that’s the most controversial thing you can do,” he said. “And everyone’s happy to talk (generally) about God (and spiritual matters) all the time … (But) Jesus? Man, that’s a no-go zone.”
And finally, he asked, “Why is that?” And answering his own question, he said, “because it’s real. That’s why. And it just triggers the (expletive) out of people.”
Carlson says ‘very intense attack’ on Charlie Kirk for speaking truth to power
Carlson, addressing the crowd at Kirk’s memorial service, recalled the story of Jesus Christ coming to Jerusalem and “telling the truth about people (in power)” that infamously led to the conspiracy among these Jewish leaders to have him crucified.
In a previous commentary Carlson also corroborated reports from The Grayzone and Candace Owens that the late founder and CEO of Turning Point USA was going through a change of perspective with regard to Israel, for which he received sharp backlash from some of his highest donors.
Given Charlie Kirk’s principled pro-life views, Carlson said he was “appalled by what was happening in Gaza” and judged Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to be “a very destructive force.”
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He also revealed that Kirk insisted he “go all the way” in discussing the Jeffrey Epstein story as a possible blackmail operation in the United States, potentially connected to Israel’s Mossad intelligence agency when he took the stage last July at the TPUSA Student Action Summit (SAS).
“Shortly after that speech, there was a very intense attack on Charlie,” Carlson reported at the time. “People with power don’t want to hear disagreement. They don’t want to be challenged. Ever.”
‘Large donors’ ‘very tough’ on Kirk, ‘tormented’ him ‘until the day he died’
Grayzone editor-in-chief Max Blumenthal described this targeting of Kirk as “a sustained private campaign of intimidation and free-floating fury by wealthy and powerful allies of Netanyahu.”
“His donors were very tough on him, so tough on him that I could feel it,” Carlson explained in a September 15 interview with Vice President J.D. Vance. “I talked to him a lot in the last few months, and he was under enormous pressure.”
Kirk resisted such pressure, inviting Carlson to speak again at TPUSA’s next conference in December, for which he received further intensified backlash from the same donors. One of them, Carlson reported at the time, withdrew a $2 million pledged donation over the issue just two days before Kirk’s assassination.
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Carlson went on to testify that a “small, very intense group” of large donors who were offended by his SAS speech “went after” Kirk “and tormented him,” and they did so “until the day he died.”
During her October 6 program, Owens revealed a screenshot text message by Kirk from two days before his assassination validating these statements. This text exchange was later confirmed to be authentic by Turning Point USA producer Andrew Kolvet. Within this dialogue, Kirk wrote to colleagues that he had “no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause.”
New level of evil: ‘abortion for the sake of abortion,’ a ‘human sacrifice’
Also, as part of his discussion with Jones, Carlson noted the advancement of evil in society which he called “super obvious,” giving an example about abortion saying this gruesome act “no longer disguises itself” as being necessary for some other good such as “a 14-year-old rape victim” needing to be protected.
Instead, he sees the ongoing direct killing of preborn girls and boys being presented as “inherently good, because it’s killing a person.” It is “abortion for the sake of abortion,” meaning it is “human sacrifice.”
Jones added that “when you actually study the globalists, none of them are atheists,” rather “they’re into the occult” and they “try to get the (evil) spirits to come into them.”
Christian Zionism ‘obviously a heresy’ as it seeks to justify ‘killing the innocent’
Discussing Christian Zionism, Jones pointed out their doctrines as presented in the Schofield Bible have “only been around” for approximately 150 years, and before this, nobody ever taught them, “not in Catholicism nor in Protestantism.”
Carlson said this system of teaching is “absurd” and “obviously a heresy” because it defends crimes like murder of the innocent.
During what was described as an “extraordinary” monologue on the topic of Israel earlier this month, he explained further, calling Christian Zionism “deranged. And you know it’s deranged” because in the context of Israel’s genocidal war against the people of Gaza, this heresy seeks to justify “killing the innocent. And in Christianity if there’s one thing that’s crystal clear, it’s that Christians cannot abide the killing of the innocent.”
While Catholics would not be able to affirm everything said in this spiritual discussion, which comes from a Protestant perspective, Carlson did offer important universal insights, stating that while “a lot of things are important, prayer is the most important.” Also included is “keeping the people you love close, keeping your personal relationships strong, (and) keeping your personal life virtuous.”
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