The historian Dominic Green recently observed: “If there is to be a movement conservatism for the 21st century, the New Right must break with Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens, and the chorus of clickbait Charles Coughlins who blame the Jews for America’s troubles. Their mind map has already caused moral brain death in the left lobe, and it is bleeding into the right lobe.” Take, for example, Carlson’s two-hour interview with Fuentes this week on Carlson’s podcast.
We have traced the arc of Carlson’s descent into the gutter over the past several years. This week he invited Fuentes to expound on his struggle, so to speak. You can easily find the whole thing on X and podcast platforms. A twisted tale of Fuentes and Carlson mocking each other precedes this week’s interview. Fuentes must have struck a nerve.
The Times of Israel’s Andrew Lapin covers the interview in some detail here. Lapin focuses on the parts of the interview that would be of interest to a Jewish audience. The Washington Free Beacon’s Andrew Stiles fills in some of the weird personal stuff that Lapin leaves out.
The arc of Carlson’s dive has asymptotically approached Fuentes. Carlson declines to join Fuentes in his explicit denunciation of those wascally Jews, but he has no problem delivering his massive online audience to Fuentes without contributing more than a quibble or two. Stiles observes that “Fuentes appeared to impress the host with his unique perspectives on women and Jews.” Indeed, they seem to have a mind-meld on Christian Zionism (clip below).
Tucker Carlson tells Nick Fuentes he despises Christian Zionists more than anyone on earth, calling Christian Zionism a dangerous heresy within Christianity.
He names Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz, John Bolton, Karl Rove, and George W. Bush as examples.
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— Shadow of Ezra (@ShadowofEzra) October 28, 2025
I take it that “Christian Zionism” is the belief among Christians that Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state. Carlson’s list should be expanded to include President Trump. Trump is the dog that doesn’t bark on that curiously circumscribed list.
Fuentes has previously expressed his admiration for Adolf Hitler as “a cool guy.” In the course of the interivew it is noted that Fuentes is also a fan of Stalin. Carlson says he will have to “circle back to that.” Unfortunately, the circle is broken. Maybe Vladimir Putin can explain it to Carlson the next time they meet up.
Rod Dreher takes up the interview in “Nick + Tucker: A Two-Man Unite The Right Rally.” Dreher is a serous Christian who describes himself as a friend of Carlson’s. His most recent book is Live Not By Lies: A Manual for Christian Dissidents. I urge interested readers to read Dreher’s post on the Carlson/Fuentes meet-up.
The documentation of Tucker’s approach to the rank anti-Semitism of Nick Fuentes can be found in my admittedly tiresome series of posts here. In my view, every writer, every public figure, every publication, and every institution that lauded Carlson in years past is obligated to speak out against the figure he has become — deceitful and destructive in his own right and a discredit to everyone with whom he associates.
