Dr. Ben Carson suggested during a podcast last week that the increasingly irrational nature of America’s political and cultural battles suggests that supernatural forces are playing a role in them.
“I think there’s forces at work, forces for good and forces for evil,” Carson said during an interview on the “The Allen Jackson Podcast” that touched on his 2024 book The Perilous Fight: Overcoming Our Culture’s War on the American Family.
“We have completely illogical things going on as some forces try to indoctrinate our kids and remove from them any sense of patriotism; take little children who are suggestible and confuse them about their gender, about whether there’s really any difference between males and females, that it’s OK for men to play in women’s sports and to be in their locker rooms,” Carson said.
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“Just crazy stuff like that,” he continued, going on to claim such tactics are effectively chipping away at society’s foundation.
“Couple that with the cultural war on the traditional nuclear family, which is made fun of, and the fact that we as a society have denigrated the whole process of marriage. People aren’t getting married. They’re getting married late, they’re not having children; all the fundamental building blocks of a strong society, and we see the consequences of those things.”
When Allen Jackson, the podcast host and senior pastor at World Outreach Church, asked him if such trends could be reversed, Carson expressed skepticism, noting his belief that the Bible predicts mankind will become increasingly corrupt before the return of Christ.
But Carson also said God calls Christians to be faithful no matter what.
“Recognize that the Bible says in the latter times, this is what’s going to happen,” Carson said in an apparent reference to the warning in 2 Peter 3. “That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t fight against it; it doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t do everything that we can to help people see the light and to save as many people as possible.”
Referencing the biblical story of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in Daniel 3, Carson noted how the three men were willing to trust God and obey, even if He didn’t save them from the fiery furnace.
“They would not bow down to the golden image, and as a result, they were to be thrown into the fiery furnace, and they said to the king, ‘Our God can save us, but even if He doesn’t, we’re still going to serve Him and not you.’”
“And that indicated the level of faith that they had: that even if He didn’t save them, He knew the beginning from the end, He knew what was best and they had complete trust and faith in Him. That’s what we’re going to have to have.”
“In these last days, things are going to get kind of hairy,” he added.
Carson’s interview with Jackson echoed one he did last year with The Christian Post, during which he warned the U.S. is crumbling from within by the destruction of the family.
“What is the foundation of our strengths? It’s our families, and we cannot be brought down militarily, but we can be destroyed from within, and that’s exactly what’s happening to our society. I want people to see what’s going on,” he told CP at the time.
Carson spent most of his career as a prominent neurosurgeon before serving as secretary of Housing and Urban Development under President Donald Trump during his first term.
Jon Brown is a reporter for The Christian Post. Send news tips to jon.brown@christianpost.com
